This is a bit... er...

[mercyrobot]

Disjointed thoughts on guns, Doctors, Captains, things that glow, and that chick in tonight's ep.


So, this:




Got me thinking.

Actually, it mostly got me going WTF. No way is it just some coincidence for a vintage Webley to show up in the 61st (if the dates are to be believed) century.

First thought was that Cobb is actually Jack a lot-lot-lot-lot of years forward and back down the road. But eh, far-fetched and doesn't really work.

So my wacky brain decided it's more likely that it's the PTB drawing paralells between Jenny and Jack. In no particular order:

Both left behind dead, both back to life with glowy stuff. Oh, and when the Doctor's talking about the terraforming wossit, he says, "Not for killing, for bringing life."

Jenny was just a soldier, but became something better because of the Doctor. (Insert 'Jack' and 'con-man' in the appropriate places.) I.e. when she realises she had the choice not to shoot Cobb.
(Sidenote: the Doctor and Ianto both say 'there's always a choice.')

When they're in the tunnels, Jenny's about to shoot another sentry and the Doctor says, "Don't you dare." Remind you of Utopia?

And there was Jenny's whole 'snog the guard and take his gun' thing. Very Jack. Really, Jenny herself and her interactions with the Doctor remind me of Jack on the whole. Eh, okay, he likes her better.


So what's it all mean? I haven't the foggiest. It could mean that Jenny can't die. It could mean that Jenny will join Torchwood. It could mean the writers were entertaining themselves. It could mean Rusty's out of ideas.


Totally unrelated: I suck at Who backstory. When the Doctor says Jenny was too much like him, is he implying he doesn't have any regenerations left? I thought the limit was 13.

Possibly I'm reading way too much into this?

Comments

[want-of-faith.livejournal.com]

This reminds me of the parallels between Ianto and Lisa, and the characters Adeola (Martha's 'cousin', who was also played by Freema Aygeman) and Gareth in the Dr Who episode 'An Army of Ghosts' (Gareth was the one that first came under the control of the cybermen after being corrupted by his blue-tooth thingy, and he lured his girlfriend Adeola off to become their next victim). They all worked for Torchwood One, both pairs were dating, Lisa and Adeola were of African descent, Ianto and Gareth look very alike, they all contributed to nearly getting the entire human race converted into cybermen, and their relationships ended rather tragically (Adeola and Gareth through death by Doctor (though I s'pose they couldn't've had much of a relationship as the zombie-slaves of cyberbeings, anyway) and Lisa and Ianto through death by Torchwood).

I think what happens is that RTD gets a lot of different ideas about the way a story should go, and rather than just use one and discard all the rest, he'll sometimes use them in other episodes.

And, this is completely off-topic, but is anyone else annoyed that they killed off Jenny? It seems like every time the Doctor even begins to get along with anyone else, they die. Like Ross from UNIT, and that PETO guy (People for the Ethical Treatment of Ood... don't know if that's actually what they were called, I just like the sound of it PETO...)

Good pick up with the webley - at the time it didn't even seem odd to me that the guy had an old-fashioned earth gun. Maybe it's like BadWolf from series one, and this is leading up to something ...

[thirstyrobot.livejournal.com]

RTD gets a lot of different ideas about the way a story should go, and rather than just use one and discard all the rest, he'll sometimes use them in other episodes.

Totally. I didn't catch the Ianto-Gareth/Lisa-Adeola thing quite as well as you did but it makes loads of sense now that you put it out there.

It seems like every time the Doctor even begins to get along with anyone else, they die.

YES. I'm STILL cranky about Ross. But hey, if Jenny got up after the Doctor had left, maybe Ross managed it too. I just hope it's not foreshadowing Death By Doctor for Donna.